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		<title>Comment on Somewhere Else by Jaime Dugan</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/somewhere-else/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed your post. Just wanted anyone reading this that is struggling to check out this ministry:

http://www.mercyministries.org 

Mercy Ministries was founded by Nancy Alcorn in 1983. It is a non-profit residential counseling program that exists to transform the lives of young women between the ages of 13-28 who face life-controlling issues. The program is free of charge, which is pretty amazing. I want to spread the awareness about Mercy because these problems are all too real in today’s society! 

Take Care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed your post. Just wanted anyone reading this that is struggling to check out this ministry:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mercyministries.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercyministries.org</a> </p>
<p>Mercy Ministries was founded by Nancy Alcorn in 1983. It is a non-profit residential counseling program that exists to transform the lives of young women between the ages of 13-28 who face life-controlling issues. The program is free of charge, which is pretty amazing. I want to spread the awareness about Mercy because these problems are all too real in today’s society! </p>
<p>Take Care!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self Harm by Jaime Dugan</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/self-harm/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed your post. Just wanted anyone reading this that is struggling to check out this ministry:

http://www.mercyministries.org 

Mercy Ministries was founded by Nancy Alcorn in 1983. It is a non-profit residential counseling program that exists to transform the lives of young women between the ages of 13-28 who face life-controlling issues. The program is free of charge, which is pretty amazing. I want to spread the awareness about Mercy because these problems are all too real in today’s society! 

Take Care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed your post. Just wanted anyone reading this that is struggling to check out this ministry:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mercyministries.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercyministries.org</a> </p>
<p>Mercy Ministries was founded by Nancy Alcorn in 1983. It is a non-profit residential counseling program that exists to transform the lives of young women between the ages of 13-28 who face life-controlling issues. The program is free of charge, which is pretty amazing. I want to spread the awareness about Mercy because these problems are all too real in today’s society! </p>
<p>Take Care!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Funny Thing Happened On The Way  From The Abyss by Mandy</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/a-funny-thing-happend-on-the-way-from-the-abyss/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there

Haven&#039;t been here for a while.  Have been meandering around  (with intermittent lapses of lying on sofa and staring at ceiling) blogland in erratic fashion. Not deliberate avoidance.

For one thing, I am glad that you are still around and although stark reality (and the torture of mental distress), it appears, is not a crowd puller it is damn straight. I think more people should interact with you, because working stuff through is usually something that gets improved with input from others (others who have similarish experiences or empathise). 

Anyway, that aside....whatever it is that triggers a need/desire to keep on going is good. Unless of course that trigger is a desire to buy a shotgun and shoot someone else.  I am actually jesting there, and laughing as I type, because I can see with me an oozie at MH services HQ (is only a thought!!!).

I am quite sad to write that I haven&#039;t heard the singing for years. Re; your reference to angels.  It used to really comfort me, although I doubt it was actually angels so much as something produced in my psyche.   

Take care there

P.S. Washing the kitchen floor.....can be of therapeutic value. Shiny, Shiny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t been here for a while.  Have been meandering around  (with intermittent lapses of lying on sofa and staring at ceiling) blogland in erratic fashion. Not deliberate avoidance.</p>
<p>For one thing, I am glad that you are still around and although stark reality (and the torture of mental distress), it appears, is not a crowd puller it is damn straight. I think more people should interact with you, because working stuff through is usually something that gets improved with input from others (others who have similarish experiences or empathise). </p>
<p>Anyway, that aside&#8230;.whatever it is that triggers a need/desire to keep on going is good. Unless of course that trigger is a desire to buy a shotgun and shoot someone else.  I am actually jesting there, and laughing as I type, because I can see with me an oozie at MH services HQ (is only a thought!!!).</p>
<p>I am quite sad to write that I haven&#8217;t heard the singing for years. Re; your reference to angels.  It used to really comfort me, although I doubt it was actually angels so much as something produced in my psyche.   </p>
<p>Take care there</p>
<p>P.S. Washing the kitchen floor&#8230;..can be of therapeutic value. Shiny, Shiny</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Funny Thing Happened On The Way  From The Abyss by Lareve</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/a-funny-thing-happend-on-the-way-from-the-abyss/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Lareve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad that family was there. You are right to think about your family. I know when things seem too painful and I am on the edge it is my family and the responsibility we have that keeps me from going too far. Stay safe. Talk to someone. Get some help - I don;t mean necesarily from MH professionals but a friend or family member? I think to try and go through this alone will be too dangerous for you. I really do understand. And In telling you this prob telling myself, But I care. x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad that family was there. You are right to think about your family. I know when things seem too painful and I am on the edge it is my family and the responsibility we have that keeps me from going too far. Stay safe. Talk to someone. Get some help &#8211; I don;t mean necesarily from MH professionals but a friend or family member? I think to try and go through this alone will be too dangerous for you. I really do understand. And In telling you this prob telling myself, But I care. x</p>
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		<title>Comment on Suicide &#8211; Preventing by Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know what to write that won&#039;t sound patronising or abrupt or crap.

Am worried for you....relieved the GP has you on some kind of &#039;watch&#039; . I think you maybe need to be somewhere really safe, and that goes against the grain with me in regards to acute care but maybe you would be safer there at the moment.

For some, if not, alot of people with MH problems, there is not much of a safety net at home. Some are lucky enough to have people around who can offer more care when needed...or have relatives who are constant and supportive.

We both know that isn&#039;t always the case and that is such a shame because I do feel that you need more support right now, and in the home, rather than having to go into acute care (which you haven&#039;t found helpful). Perhaps, it might help this time but I can&#039;t write that like I really believe it would happen. Is written with hope.

Try to keep hanging on in there.  Email if you need...even if you want to scream in some kind of verbal way.  Okay, so I am pretty screwy right now but I empathise

x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know what to write that won&#8217;t sound patronising or abrupt or crap.</p>
<p>Am worried for you&#8230;.relieved the GP has you on some kind of &#8216;watch&#8217; . I think you maybe need to be somewhere really safe, and that goes against the grain with me in regards to acute care but maybe you would be safer there at the moment.</p>
<p>For some, if not, alot of people with MH problems, there is not much of a safety net at home. Some are lucky enough to have people around who can offer more care when needed&#8230;or have relatives who are constant and supportive.</p>
<p>We both know that isn&#8217;t always the case and that is such a shame because I do feel that you need more support right now, and in the home, rather than having to go into acute care (which you haven&#8217;t found helpful). Perhaps, it might help this time but I can&#8217;t write that like I really believe it would happen. Is written with hope.</p>
<p>Try to keep hanging on in there.  Email if you need&#8230;even if you want to scream in some kind of verbal way.  Okay, so I am pretty screwy right now but I empathise</p>
<p>x</p>
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		<title>Comment on Honesty by Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all I can see is people drowning (or as tends to be the casecase carrying on best as - suffering quite a bit -with their problems) within a system that is mostly shite.

There is likely to be little change, if any of a positive nature, within the system so is better for those who can cope, outside of it to do so.

I am not trying to encourage you to do anything but as painful as it is, reality checking is as good as it gets.

My view on acute care is similar to yours. It is a dumping ground where people are monged out on meds and staff can then do minimul and that is exactly what they do!!!

It&#039;s pants hun but it is what it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all I can see is people drowning (or as tends to be the casecase carrying on best as &#8211; suffering quite a bit -with their problems) within a system that is mostly shite.</p>
<p>There is likely to be little change, if any of a positive nature, within the system so is better for those who can cope, outside of it to do so.</p>
<p>I am not trying to encourage you to do anything but as painful as it is, reality checking is as good as it gets.</p>
<p>My view on acute care is similar to yours. It is a dumping ground where people are monged out on meds and staff can then do minimul and that is exactly what they do!!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pants hun but it is what it is!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s the Point? by Mandy</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/whats-the-point/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there

I am never quite sure what the point is because we don&#039;t start off with many choices. As in we are bought into this world because other people have needs.  The need to be parents and nurture or to biologically do what is human (animal) nature. Not saying that is bad...and it really depends on the families/environments babies are born into. It is how it is.

I used to be a planner of a person. Looking to a future (cos I kinda felt if there was something to look towards I could deal better with the now..which has always been quite grim). As the future never got any brighter and in fact most of my plans went down the toilet or had to be frequently re-arranged, I gave up on planning.

Now I live in the day.  Sometimes, I look to the week aheadn but I don&#039;t go any further than that. Other people will sometimes ask or need me to plan ahead..I always give a tentative &quot;Yes&quot; to that without having any confidence that things will come to fruition. Maybe some would see that as defeatest. I see it as damage limitation after a lifetime of having to work my way around and within complex relationships (including my illness and illness around me).

And for sure some days...mostly more than other days... I can&#039;t see much point (certainly not on a revelational level) apart from things are what they are and other people need me..so try to keep some balance around that.

all the macro stuff, I realise, is never going to be any better until the human race (and those with the power and control) wants to wake up and take some responsiblity for.  could jabber on about real democracy but certainly in this country we are so used to handing the responsiblity over to other people and then moaning when it doesn&#039;t turn out how we want it to be...I doubt people would know how to make a decision if they had to.   Maybe that is a bit too much like bear baiting but what the hell!!!

Perhaps you are feeling worse for coming off the meds. I don&#039;t know. With MH problems is a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.

If someone could give us an off switch...so that we could shut all the noise in our heads off for a while that would be good. Sadly the meds often do that but they shut off the good bits about being us as well as the horrid stuff....and sometimes the meds get rid of the good bits but leave the crap.  Oh dear!

Sending a hug cos ultimately, and deffo when I am in pitsville, a hug provides some comfort (real comfort) :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there</p>
<p>I am never quite sure what the point is because we don&#8217;t start off with many choices. As in we are bought into this world because other people have needs.  The need to be parents and nurture or to biologically do what is human (animal) nature. Not saying that is bad&#8230;and it really depends on the families/environments babies are born into. It is how it is.</p>
<p>I used to be a planner of a person. Looking to a future (cos I kinda felt if there was something to look towards I could deal better with the now..which has always been quite grim). As the future never got any brighter and in fact most of my plans went down the toilet or had to be frequently re-arranged, I gave up on planning.</p>
<p>Now I live in the day.  Sometimes, I look to the week aheadn but I don&#8217;t go any further than that. Other people will sometimes ask or need me to plan ahead..I always give a tentative &#8220;Yes&#8221; to that without having any confidence that things will come to fruition. Maybe some would see that as defeatest. I see it as damage limitation after a lifetime of having to work my way around and within complex relationships (including my illness and illness around me).</p>
<p>And for sure some days&#8230;mostly more than other days&#8230; I can&#8217;t see much point (certainly not on a revelational level) apart from things are what they are and other people need me..so try to keep some balance around that.</p>
<p>all the macro stuff, I realise, is never going to be any better until the human race (and those with the power and control) wants to wake up and take some responsiblity for.  could jabber on about real democracy but certainly in this country we are so used to handing the responsiblity over to other people and then moaning when it doesn&#8217;t turn out how we want it to be&#8230;I doubt people would know how to make a decision if they had to.   Maybe that is a bit too much like bear baiting but what the hell!!!</p>
<p>Perhaps you are feeling worse for coming off the meds. I don&#8217;t know. With MH problems is a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.</p>
<p>If someone could give us an off switch&#8230;so that we could shut all the noise in our heads off for a while that would be good. Sadly the meds often do that but they shut off the good bits about being us as well as the horrid stuff&#8230;.and sometimes the meds get rid of the good bits but leave the crap.  Oh dear!</p>
<p>Sending a hug cos ultimately, and deffo when I am in pitsville, a hug provides some comfort (real comfort) :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s the Point? by Ron Peponis</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/whats-the-point/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Peponis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is something much deeper - there is no point. Get your mind around that one and the fight is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is something much deeper &#8211; there is no point. Get your mind around that one and the fight is over.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s the Point? by norm</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/whats-the-point/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is to see that you arent the only person having to fight for everything  and to see the  bleak situation you find yourself in as part of a wider struggle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is to see that you arent the only person having to fight for everything  and to see the  bleak situation you find yourself in as part of a wider struggle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reasons by Mandy</title>
		<link>http://thesps.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/reasons/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What good is a CMHT that does no good...the question answers itself :&gt;)

there is thinking that MH services should be scrapped. I think the government is slowly doing that anyway (and hoping no-one notices).

I have found my support worker helpful. That is when they bother to turn up....I am finding the CMHT is getting worse.  Rumours are abounding about jobs being cut.  Even MH staff themselves are saying they are understaffed (or have recently had a staff reshuffle).

Getting rid of crap services is one thing but that doesn&#039;t mean that people with mental illness are going to cope without support.

so what would replace these services? Would they be replaced..they should be but that doesn&#039;t mean they will.

I sometimes do and I sometimes don&#039;t as in need services or find them useful.  I can&#039;t tell for definate when things are going to get worse for me. I can tell that certain things affect me...up the stress levels and that veers me towards &#039;acute&#039; times  (or more acute times) but I doubt that if I get worse anything will be there to help me anymore.  I might be offered acute care, although i don&#039;t think so and that hasn&#039;t really helped in the past. Just cooped up going more la la on meds that didn&#039;t work.

I think if you can cope off the meds and without the CMHT then that is the best place to be.  Good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What good is a CMHT that does no good&#8230;the question answers itself :&gt;)</p>
<p>there is thinking that MH services should be scrapped. I think the government is slowly doing that anyway (and hoping no-one notices).</p>
<p>I have found my support worker helpful. That is when they bother to turn up&#8230;.I am finding the CMHT is getting worse.  Rumours are abounding about jobs being cut.  Even MH staff themselves are saying they are understaffed (or have recently had a staff reshuffle).</p>
<p>Getting rid of crap services is one thing but that doesn&#8217;t mean that people with mental illness are going to cope without support.</p>
<p>so what would replace these services? Would they be replaced..they should be but that doesn&#8217;t mean they will.</p>
<p>I sometimes do and I sometimes don&#8217;t as in need services or find them useful.  I can&#8217;t tell for definate when things are going to get worse for me. I can tell that certain things affect me&#8230;up the stress levels and that veers me towards &#8216;acute&#8217; times  (or more acute times) but I doubt that if I get worse anything will be there to help me anymore.  I might be offered acute care, although i don&#8217;t think so and that hasn&#8217;t really helped in the past. Just cooped up going more la la on meds that didn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I think if you can cope off the meds and without the CMHT then that is the best place to be.  Good luck</p>
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